Let's say that there's someone who has no natural-born talent for chess, would this person be able to reach the following goals based on hard work?
1, 2000 FIDE
2. Candidate Master
3. International Master
4. Grandmaster
5. World Champion
Thanks for the feedback in advance
Someone with average intelligence starting at 7 or 9 putting in enough work could probably reach CM at least.
Paying for all the traveling and having consistent work ethic is probably biggest hurdle.
Some animals can learn hundreds of words and images so a human can learn 8 openings and 30 sidelines and calculate well enough with long time controls.
Being a true international 2500 at bullet is a whole other animal.
Its impossible to prove because people will just call "someone" talented if they achieve those
I'd say even 2000 fide requires talent. It's 80% work and 20% talent as they say but 2000 is most definitely above the 80% percentile
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
In my opinion and experience of chess , but if you're delusional then it's all a fix anyway. And I can beat Magnus on a good day 2-1 , best of three , tee hee xxx
Hard work is a talent.
Or see it that way: if you are 80 years old and get started with chess: cut it out!
Yes (quite easily)
Yes (with more effort)
Yes (incredibly difficult, they will peak at this point)
No (the gap between IM and GM is more than just rating and norms)
No (self-explanatory)
@GabeMiami17 said in #1:
> Let's say that there's someone who has no natural-born talent for chess, would this person be able to reach the following goals based on hard work?
>
> 1, 2000 FIDE
> 2. Candidate Master
> 3. International Master
> 4. Grandmaster
> 5. World Champion
>
> Thanks for the feedback in advance
1 yes
2 yes
3 yes
4 yes but rarely
5 no
@GabeMiami17 said in #1:
> Let's say that there's someone who has no natural-born talent for chess, would this person be able to reach the following goals based on hard work?
>
> 1, 2000 FIDE
> 2. Candidate Master
> 3. International Master
> 4. Grandmaster
> 5. World Champion
>
> Thanks for the feedback in advance
1. yeh 100% possible
2. you would need some serious dedication but yes it's possible
3. you can but it would take a while to achieve
4. nah
5. NOPE
@GabeMiami17 said in #1:
> Let's say that there's someone who has no natural-born talent for chess, would this person be able to reach the following goals based on hard work? ...
Since we have no way to measure "natural-born talent", it does not seem likely that we have reliable data to indicate the answer to this sort of question.
